Fevered musings from post-Bikram class

topic posted Tue, April 10, 2007 - 9:41 AM by 
I've recently joined back up with a bikram yoga studio (Funky Door, in Berkeley), and was lying there after class, pondering this and that....

I was wondering why I'm so "addicted" to the Bikram class. It's the only exercise my body has ever craved, and I was wondering why.
Do you "crave" this type of yoga? If so, any theories on why?

I was having some thoughts that maybe the ritualistic movement, of everyone in class doing the same movements, time and time again, for good benefit to the body and mind... fulfills the need that humans have for ritual and group movement. We no longer dance by the campfires, perform specific movements for various festivals and times of the year.... perhaps Bikram brings that back to us, on some level?

Or maybe it's just the huge endorphin rush that I get after class. Maybe it's just my body producing pleasure-chemicals, and this is the most effective way to do it, without running (which is too high-impact).

So maybe we're just all crackheads, pushing our bodies like this for a hit of pleasure-drugs.

Any thoughts?
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  • Re: Fevered musings from post-Bikram class

    Tue, April 10, 2007 - 1:37 PM
    I crave it! I have been thinking about this for a long time now. My thought is that the body craves things that are good for it. Most exercises do harm to the body. Bikram's series activates the entire body and encourages it to heal it's self… but there's more to that. I've tried the series alone. It's not the same. There is certainly a group energy that is absorbed. There is also that energy from the teacher. I never thought about it as a ritual though. I am addicted… and I can't wait for class tonight.
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    Tue, April 10, 2007 - 10:32 PM
    I posted this some while back, but it seems appropriate now within the context of this ritualistic question about Bikram class:

    "To sweat is to pray, to make an offering of your innermost self. Sweat is holy water, prayer beads, pearls of liquid that release your past, anointing all your parts in a baptism by fire. Sweat burns karma, purifying body and soul. Sweat is an ancient and universal form of self-healing, whether done in the gym, the sauna, or the sweat lodge. I do it on the dance floor. The more you dance, the more you sweat. The more you sweat, the more you pray. The more you pray, the closer you come to ecstasy."

    -- Gabrielle Roth

    This is part of why I am addicted to Bikram yoga. I crave the endorphin rush. I like the people I practice with. I like the teachers. It is a ritual of sorts. Especially, when done daily. (I just completed a 30-day challenge.)
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      Wed, April 11, 2007 - 8:18 PM
      I am very new to this or any practice of yoga. I began my practice in jan. and Bikram "hot yoga" a couple months ago. I find I crave the hot room and postures every other day. I love the extension I get in the postures in the heated room. I am working on this as a building block for other yoga postures. I consider the heat as a tool such as the bands. Even though I know little about yoga, I know there is so much more to learn. I am also a nursing student and I recognize this sort of practice can be harmful to asmatics, people with cvs,low or high blood pressure and countless other disorders. This is not for everyone! Do what you feel is right for your body. If you chose this path make sure you intake enough electrolytes. There are many packets you can add to your water. I do love the extension and relaxation I feel within the postures. However there are many other sensations you need to aknowledge such as dizzyness, and nausea. The heat may cause vaso-dilation within the blood vessels which may cause a drop in blood pressure which is potentially dangerous. At a contolled level in the healthy indidual it is probably harmless and gives us that "light" sensation when practicing this yoga, Just do what you feel is right within your body and mind. Of course, listen to your body's limitaions, everyone is different.
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        Wed, April 11, 2007 - 8:53 PM
        With all that I said in mind. I do crave the sweat and see the glow in my skin and spirit. I have read online alot of critism concernig this type of yoga. I am a nursing student and have heard the negative critiques about this practice of yoga. Mostly concerning the hot temps. and the health problems that may arise. I do believe there may be something to the sequence of (asanas). I want to further my practice with this and other yoga practices and postures. I will sek out other forms of yoga and I welcome your suggestions. Thank you.
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          Thu, April 12, 2007 - 3:50 AM
          I question your comment about Bikram yoga being harmful for asthmatics. I have had asthma since I was a child. I currently live with two cats in a house with a lot of animal hair in the carpet and I suffer from that. I have to medicate myself nightly with ephedrine in order to sleep.

          I also just finished a 30-day Bikram Yoga challenge. Each day I felt the heat and my practice purge the allergy toxins from my body. Some of these postures are designed to do that. I could feel my lungs being cleaned out, and at the end of the class I no longer had any asthma symptoms.

          How about that for a testimony?
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            Wed, April 18, 2007 - 6:43 PM
            Wow! Like I said, I am new to this or any yoga. I only repeated what my professer said about the practice. Right know I am trying to weigh what I am told in nursing school and what I personally experiance, as well as what I hear from others. Thanks for letting me know how it has affected you. I want to take my husband to class with me, but he is a little older then I and with about 30 extra pounds. With a family history of heart problems. I feel the benifits myself, but I am hesitant to take him since my professer said it creates alot of stress on the heart. I also have an asmatic friend that practices Hatha yoga and worry about her during the session or would invite her. I would love to hear any other testemonials. I am not sure if this is true or not but I was watching "House" on TV and during the show it was stated that 33% of wastes is excreted through the skin. Well. if that is true we are definatly getting rid of alot of wastes. I still think that replacing electrolytes is soooo important as well as water. Thanks Ngagpa for your input.
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              Wed, April 18, 2007 - 7:15 PM
              have known asthmatics that practiced bikram and they actually professed to feel bettetr and not need medication as often. One woman in particular kept her inhaler with her in class just in case . I suffered from an awful migraine that was completely disabling me right after my father died and i spoke to Bikram's wife over the phone and she told me to go to class and do the class but to hold back on any poses that used arm pulling because it could cause more tension. she said she thought my nervous system was overtaxed and if I exhausted myself in class i would go home, sleep and wake up and the migraine would be gone, It worked. i'm not a bikram addict but it definitely has multi dimensional healing benfits.
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    Wed, April 11, 2007 - 8:45 PM
    I thought about your post before I practiced today, what makes me so addicted to this yoga...I like the connection I'm developing with my fellow yogi's and yogini's...I like saying hi to people, ask them how's it going..support the ones going to teacher training and also just having someone after class to go..."wow, that was a hot one...great class"...I also like that I can see that I actually do improve at different postures the more I practice, I like that payoff that my hard work is showing itself in my ability to go into and hold postures I couldn't before...I even like that the more tired I get (I just did class #40 in 35 days today) and although my regular postures I feel strong in weren't as strong, my rabbit showed just a little bit of improvement...it made my day because that's been a challenging posture for me to get into and that quarter of on inch I felt move...is at least a move in the right direction. I also feel good because although I was tired, I realize I can push myself harder than I thought I could...it feels good to break through an unhelpful preconceived limitation...I bring that attitude into other areas of my life and I find myself asking myself...where else have I limited my potential...how am I stronger than I thought I was?

    Another thing... It's like a horserace, one posture runs out front for awhile--then another one edges forward...everyday it's different--the other day my standing head to knee dropped back a little in the race, but my breathing was better...I've had those days where I felt I had a rocking class, but knew I could still get better at it. I also love the fact that there are no shortcuts in my practice, I've had to work real hard to make the gains I've made...and the only way to get better is to practice more. I have such respect for the owner of the studio I go to, and for the teachers who have a strong practice because I know they earned it through hard work and a lot of sweat..it makes it even more impressive when they fluently go into a beautiful advanced series asana...I also like the fact that the older you get, the better you can get as long as you practice...it's a win/win situation...I look better, I feel better...and I've felt my confidence and self esteem improve because if I can handle 90 minutes in the heat...I've already done the hardest thing I'm going to do that day...so bring on the day, bring it on...

    haha...I can't wait to practice tomorrow...
    you guys have got me all FIRED up...lol
    • Re: Fevered musings from post-Bikram class

      Tue, May 15, 2007 - 12:40 PM
      I agree w/ the addiction. I crave that post-class sensation too. My other FAVORITE feeling is right after camel it's better than any drug i've ever tried, it's amazing.

      and based on the effect i get from the camel pose i think that the 'release' that you get from bending in directions that you would not otherwise be bending in is a big part of it. people have told me that we store not only toxins but emotions and memories in our bodies. when you bend backward (or any other way) your spine is moving in a way that it may not move in normally b/c your job/life/etc does not require it. and so much is released.

      now, mix this with the fact that it's a fantastic rush of the good 'ol endorphins (body's morphine) , and that alone is enough for us crazy humans to get addicted.

      but then you have the severe detox as well. I tend to think that the more toxic you are the bigger deal that is, b/c you have more junk to get rid of and you feel very different once you get it out.

      i'm a big fan of the class also pushing me farther than i thought i could possibly go physically. it's really amazing. i think it's almost like going through a traumatic experience b/c it is so intense. it's like 'putting the body through a kind of war' (not to minimalize war)

      and this also causes you to form a kind of bond w/ those around you. any intense experience (good or bad) will do this. and it's interesting that it happens in bikram b/c there is no verbal communication between participants during class. yet you are still connected to everyone.

      the other thing that happens for me is that my body is being pushed so hard that my mind literally has no energy left to do its usual stuff. like worrying , projecting, criticizing, etc... all those things that keep me from being able to meditate. so, i describe it as a way to 'force' my mind into this focused meditative state b/c all you can do is concentrate on surviving through the class. it's beautiful.

      the ritual comment was also right on. just like drug addicts, we take great pleasure in the rituals that surround our 'drug'. and the whole thing is really a ritual. same poses, etc... we are creatures of habit. we like familiarity and we like structure. do you ever go somewhere a few times and sit at the same table and when you goagain someone else is there and you fell upset that they are at 'your' table? that is a perfect example. i know i do it in the yoga studio too. i like my certain spot and am exicted when i'm early enough to get it.

      the other thing i like is the support that you get from the teacher. even if it's a pushy one that yells at you, it's still b/c they are supporting you and il ke that. it is something that you can feel from certain instructors and you miss in others. i know that the teacher is a big part of why i am able to push myself to such limits: i do what they tell me to do. which is a lot easier than motivating myself to do something. we are sort of weird like that w/ authority (look up the milgram experiments that took place after WWII). but in the case of bikram i allow it to work in my favor, we all do.

      ok, that's all the 'logical' explanations i've come up w/ so far. I also ponder this issue often. but i realize that there is also a very metaphysical spiritual part of Bikram that I'm not mentioning b/c i feel like i Know so little about it. but i know it's there.

      long live the sweaty gumbys!!!!
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    Thu, June 21, 2007 - 6:18 PM
    Hi--I am one who found that my body had difficulty dealing with the heated environment. I am on blood pressure related diuretics so keeping electrolyte balance was difficult. The part that stopped me was having repeated sinus infections each time I went back into the heated room. I plan to try a different style of yoga to see if there is a difference.

    Trillium--but I do miss the good sweat!
  • Re: Fevered musings from post-Bikram class

    Thu, June 21, 2007 - 7:53 PM
    I love it because I love torture, especially prolonged torture :~D.

    There is actually an element of truth to that. I used to like to run, as long as I could run cross country and go for at least 1.5 hours. So I want the repetitive movement and I want intensity. I believe it is somewhat tantric. Regular yoga doesn't get me into my body as much.

    There is also something freeing about thinking that hey, we are all sweaty, grunty, occasionally unbelievably klutzy and even flatulant (don't laugh, OK laugh, but it's happened *snork*) and we are capable of making something beautiful out of all this slippery mess.

    It's just good stuff and above all it works.

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